Cam Belt Or Timing Chain?

[mumof4]

Fraud have said that we need to have our cam belt changed at a cost of 365 squid B) yet an independant dealer said that we dont have a cam belt but a timing chain!!!who is right??? :huh: .Even the manual says cam belt.i have a ford galaxy 1.9 tdi ghia x reg 51k miles on the clock.

many thanks in advance 4 your help.

Marian.

[Guest vr6galaxy]

belt

[Rallim]

I dont know much B), but the 1.9 TDI definiteley has a timing belt, not a timing chain.

 

Do a search on 'cambelt' (using any date for the time frame) and you will find many threads!

 

Gordon.

[mumof4]

Many thanks 4 your replies.so i def have a timing belt then??was looking at other threads earlier and i was still none the wiser ! B) the guy at the garage said timimg chain and fraud were adamant we had a cam belt that was seriously overdue a change!.does a timing belt have to be changed at a set milage?

thanks again.

[Masked Marauder]

Yes, yours should be every 4 years or 40,000 miles.

[mumof4]

oops!!we a bit past that now!!!i know the guy said that it was about 500 to change the timing belt

[mumof4]

got it wrong....other half said the guy quoted him just under a grand to change the belt. :) B) :huh: B) .if i had a manual...id do it myself(hubby just sits and goes......i fix!!)

[Masked Marauder]

got it wrong....other half said the guy quoted him just under a grand to change the belt. :) B) :huh: B) .if i had a manual...id do it myself(hubby just sits and goes......i fix!!)

I would expect that kind of price if it was a chain as the engine has to come out. But it is not, it is a belt and it is straight forwards to do if you buy a few specialist tools.

[mumof4]

whereabouts can i get these tools??

[Guest vr6galaxy]

Tool shopS :P

 

 

most good car spares shop should stock them, several posts on cam belt changing have links to kits for doing the job, try eurocar part and GFS for starters then Snap on if you loads of dosh :(

[Guest marcusheawood]

Jesus! Mumof4 just go to a main dealer, they have standard menu pricing which will be a fraction of what you've just been quoted (I think Ford is cheaper)....OMG I just sent a fresh victim to the stealer!!!!! :(

 

Oh, and VR6Gal, IF YOU BUY CHEAP YOU BUY TWICE!!

[mumof4]

Are you implying that because i am female i would not be able to do as good a job as you men who try to fix your own cars to save some money? :P .I fix many things around the house that need doing as i love to fix things.Ok...a car is a bit bigger than a washing machine or telly etc......but we all have to learn somehow...and if i fail and have to call on fraud to undo my mistakes then i will learn! :( BUT!!...i have no intention of failing....i like my galaxy.....and i have the time to fix it ....why should i throw my money at fraud when i can throw it at the money munchers!!!!!!!!lol.Isnt it why we are all here if we need help with a problem???to get advise from those who know on how to put things right!!

Marian.xx

[dave_m]

If you do it yourself and you do make a mistake then it could and probably will cause major damage to the engine I looked at the possibility of doing the belt myself as i am fairly confident on working on my car in the end I took it to the dealer and if i remember correctly it cost about

[Guest marcusheawood]

Nein, nein MumOf4 you mis-understand!

 

I was merely implying that:

 

If you can't tell if your car has a cambelt or a camchain THEN YOU SHOULDN'T TRY TO REPLACE IT, GENDER IS IRRELEVANT.

 

As dave_m has correctly implied; if you get this even slightly wrong then your repair bill WILL suddenly squirt uncomfortably into four figures.

 

I fully appreciate your 'can do' attitude, and fervently wish that more ladies would make the effort to undertake practical tasks.

 

However a learning curve can also be a slippery slope! :(

[seatkid]

:lol: Sounds like marcusheawood been using too much baby oil with all his slippery squirts! :huh:

 

I think dave_m is quite a bit out....I think most dealers will charge

[tim-spam]

Just one small point - you have an X-reg diesel, which is the year that the PD engine was introduced. If yours is pre-PD, the belt change is due at 60,000 miles and not 40,000.

[Guest vr6galaxy]

 

mumof4 - you sound like quite a woman :lol: - but think carefully before launching into this one, - invest in a TIS CD and study the illustrated procedure first....

What he means is RFM and then if the big words confuse you :wub: dont be afraid to ask for a real mans help! marcus says if you ask his wife nicely she may let him come out and help you, that's after he's finished the dishes and the ironing :) but if he get his pinny dirty again! :huh: he wont get another one till his next birthday :P

[Guest marcusheawood]

:wub: :) :lol: :huh:

[mumof4]

Many thanks guys for all your help.. :P :D :D

Im going to study this carefully so that i know what i will be doing.Not sure if ours is a PD engine so i guess that will be the first thing i try to find out.I will also invest in lots of rubber gloves so i dont break my nails!! :angry: :lol: ;) (joking..as if im the type of gal to have em!!)

will let you know how i get on!

marian.xx

[fireski]

Dave M provides a full TIS detail on procedure for changing cam belt in 7th Dec post.

 

Specifically in respect of tensioning the belt: "Use a new 4 mm drill bit. Adjust the timing belt tensioner. Using the circlip pliers, rotate the timing belt tensioner cam clockwise until the drill bit can be inserted".

 

Can anyone provide any further detail and the rationale for this part of the procedure? How does the tensioner/damper actually work and what is the purpose of the 4mm gap?

 

Is it always necessary to change the damper?

[Guest marcusheawood]

...Oh boy... :P :lol:

[Masked Marauder]

Dave M provides a full TIS detail on procedure for changing cam belt in 7th Dec post.

 

Specifically in respect of tensioning the belt: "Use a new 4 mm drill bit. Adjust the timing belt tensioner. Using the circlip pliers, rotate the timing belt tensioner cam clockwise until the drill bit can be inserted".

 

Can anyone provide any further detail and the rationale for this part of the procedure? How does the tensioner/damper actually work and what is the purpose of the 4mm gap?

 

Is it always necessary to change the damper?

But not for a non PD engine....

[fireski]

In respect of PD engine, I am still anxious to have a more detailed understanding of the actual setting-up of the belt & tensioner!

[Phil Neal]

just had the belt done on our 90bhp w reg,

[Masked Marauder]

 

big up to our local garage

And long may you continue to support them.

 

The more money we keep in our local areas the better. Big companies care nothing about your local area other than how much profit they can make from it.